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=================================================================== INTERVIEW WITH A WITNESS TO A UFO SIGHTING - FAIRFIELD CA. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Sysop's Note: The person being interviewed here wishes to withhold the last names of the witnesses. I have been acquainted with "David" for almost two years. He has told me that he is a pilot and that he has had at least six UFO sightings. --- 01/27/94 MC = Mike Coyle DJ = David MC: Why did you go to the area of the sighting? DJ: OK, well I was visiting with a friend which I try to do periodically. He has seen some bizarre things out there. So we happened to be going around looking at the sky. Actually talking at that time about what he had been seeing recently. MC: You were walking where? DJ: He's on a farm, his place, right next to the windmill farm. It's real close to Bird's Landing (CA). Maybe a mile or so away, in the Fairfield area. MC: How far is that from the edge of Travis Air Force Base? DJ: Oh I'd probably say fifteen, twenty miles at the most. MC: So your friend has been seeing strange things flying over his house? DJ: He has seen some really big things hovering over his house and strange things in the back of his place. MC: How does your friend know you? DJ: I have known him through a mutual friend for several years. MC: Your interest in each other was originally not about UFOs? You just knew him and as time went by he had these experiences of with things flying over his house? DJ: What's right. MC: And then he told you about it? So you decided to go out and see if you could actually see one? DJ: Yes, and I wish I had my camera with me. MC: Why didn't you have a camera with you? DJ: I wasn't really expecting to see anything there. I have brought cameras there before but we never saw anything when I did. MC: So you have actually gone out there before to try to see these objects and seen nothing? DJ: Yeah, he told me about this stuff, and I said, "God I'd love to get a picture." I said, "Why didn't you get a picture? You've been out there so long?" MC: How many times have you gone out there to look around? DJ: Maybe five or six. MC: So then you finally saw one? What was the day, date and time of this sighting? DJ: In the evening, maybe around eight or nine, after dark. It was about two months ago. I can't recall the exact day. Chilly, clear, a slight bit of fog, it was almost like, in fact he had mentioned this before, he had seen a kind of fog come up around there where they where doing some of their stuff back there. He was of the opinion they there putting out a fog field to make it hard to see. MC: So you were in his house and you decided to go walk around his property? DJ: Yeah, we were inside and decided to go out and walk around because he's got a lot of animals. Then we saw something come by and it was stranger than most planes would be because it had so many lights on the front. At first I just looked at the lights because they there so bright. They were kind of amber colored, more of a whitish amber and there was a whole row at a "V" angle. MC: When you first spotted it what direction where you looking? DJ: I was looking over towards Travis Air Force Base area from Birds Landing, so I guess that would be east. MC: In what direction was the object moving? DJ: It was moving from south to north. MC: Was it coming right at you or was it moving across your line of sight? DJ: It was moving across my line of sight, a few hundred yards away up in the air. We were just to the west of the windmill generators. There are some hills to the north. So the object was over the hills. As it came over I could see it pretty well and then it banked. It was going slower than a plane could have flown as far as I could tell because it was too low. MC: What was it's approximate altitude? DJ: I'd say approximately five hundred feet. When it banked it banked at a very extreme angle, like over forty five degrees. MC: When you first spotted it how far away did it look? DJ: A couple thousand feet away. MC: How large did it appear to be? DJ: It looked really pretty large, about the size of a, but not quite as big as, one of those huge transports. MC: Like a C-5? DJ: Yeah, but it was a little smaller than that but possibly as big as a 747. I thought it was a bomber at first but it was going to slow for how low it was. And then all those lights on the front. I have never seen planes with a whole row of lights. MC: You say it was going slow, near stall speed for a plane? DJ: Below stall speed for a plane. Especially when it stopped! It just hovered. At first I couldn't really see the shape because it was a dark color but the lights were so bright that you could tell when it flew over that it was a triangular shape, a perfect triangle. MC: And your friend was with you during this? Would you like to give his name? DJ: Yes, he saw it. His first name is Terry. MC: What was his reaction to this? DJ: He said, "That is the exact same thing I saw over my house. It looked like the size of a football field." MC: How high up in the air did he think it was at that time? DJ: He thought it was fifty to a hundred feet above his house. This was on another night. He said it was huge and it just sort of hovered there for awhile and then it left. MC: Say there is some kind of operation going on out there with unidentified aircraft. He is very close to it. Has he ever been approached by the Air Force? Or had any contact with other authorities? DJ: I don't think so. He's never mentioned anything. MC: He's never made any reports to the authorities on his own? DJ: No. MC: Why not? DJ: He pretty much knows they're up to something. MC: And he doesn't want to bring any attention to himself? DJ: Exactly. He doesn't feel it would make any difference. He talks about it freely but he would never go to the government. MC: OK, so, you say it was traveling south to north and as the object got over Travis it hovered? DJ: Well more over, actually it was behind, a hill when it started hovering but what seemed to be on the other side of the hill, was probably some more of those windmills, or least it was nearby. It certainly was directly adjacent to those windmills. MC: And then what happened? Did it start to land? DJ: Actually, it went over a couple of times before it landed. It just flew over and banked and turned around the other direction. I think it even went behind the hill so we couldn't see it for awhile. The first time I saw it I don't think it landed or even completely stopped. It just slowed down and banked in a extreme bank and that's when a could see there were three, sort of glowing, round openings at the bottom. I would guess they were some sort of propulsion system. There was one at each point of the triangle. Up to this point I really couldn't tell what the shape was other than it was a triangle. MC: When you say triangle, what type? DJ: Equilateral. MC: So it didn't have a acute angle shape like the new stealth bombers or stealth fighters. DJ: No, it was perfectly symmetrical. MC: So it would make it look much more squat than one of the stealths, rather than swept back? DJ: Yes, that's right. And then after it came back the second time it was hovering at that point. And then it did the most bizarre thing. I was trying to see what the overall shape was because it was kind of hard to tell with those bright lights on the front. Then the bright lights went off. At the same time these incredibility bright strobes where lining the edge of the triangle. And what it looked like was two platforms which were triangular in shape. The lower one had strobes all the way around the triangle. Then the upper part, it was maybe ten or fifteen feet above the lower triangle. There was a second platform which was also triangular shaped and it had more strobes. When the strobes went on, they weren't all going on at the same time. The strobes on the bottom would alternate with the strobes on the top. So it was a real rapid, maybe three, four or five times a second. Flashing back and forth between the upper part and the lower part. It only did that when it was hovering, about to land. MC: And then it started to descend? DJ: Yeah, then it started to descend and descended all the way behind the hill. The reason I could tell it was alternating the strobes is that when it began to descend behind the hill, the one section, the lower section, was behind the hill and the upper section wasn't, then the rate of the flashing was half as fast. Finally it dropped completely behind the hill. MC: So at this point it was hidden from your view? How far away was it then, when it went behind the hill? DJ: Probably a couple, maybe three hundred yards. MC: So it was off of your friends property? DJ: That's right. MC: Do you know what property it is? That's not Travis Air Force Base is it? DJ: No, I think it's either an open field or is part of the windmill farm. MC: It was only three hundred yards away but you didn't go towards it? DJ: No, because it would have required going through a field with lots of bushes and a few fences and... MC: Has your friend ever seen one of these things land in that area before. DJ: Yeah, I think so. I'm pretty sure he had said that he had seen them land back there but he had never seen the area where it landed. MC: He has never gone in back of the hill? DJ: No, I don't think so. MC: Are there any public roads going through that area? DJ: It's kind of isolated from the other roads in the area. When I go there again I am going to try to check that area out. MC: OK, so it went down behind the hill. Then what happened? DJ: It sounded like large amounts of equipment were off loading. Like trucks, jeeps, sort of like a whining sound like a large truck. MC: But that is just supposition on your part, right? You could not actually see anything at this time, right? DJ: Yes, just the sounds of heavy machinery. It sounded like large geared type machinery. MC: How long did this go on? DJ: That lasted for maybe ten minutes and then it took off again. MC: And then the object rose up from behind the hill? DJ: Yeah, except I don't think it went straight up this time. I think it went up at more of an angle. It didn't go up quite as high. I believe it was going north again. And it went pretty far north. There are some more hills so I couldn't always see it. Then it turned back around and came back and landed at that same place again and it "off loaded" some more stuff but this second time it was a longer period of time. More like twenty or thirty minutes. MC: When it made the loop and came back, how big of a loop was it? DJ: Hard to say because I didn't have it in view the whole time. MC: When it came back to land the second time was it in the same position it was in, the first time? DJ: Yes, it made the same maneuver again with the lights blinking. Then sounds of a lot of activity and then it took off again to the north and that was the last time we saw it. MC: Did it go away fast? Did it go away slow? DJ: Fairly slow. MC: So it rose up and moved off slowly to the north at low altitude until you lost sight of it? DJ: Yes, it made some noise but it didn't sound at all like a jet engine. Like that whine sound. It was more like a "shsssss", or a slight roar. It wasn't very loud. MC: OK, when it went away, then what did you guys do? DJ: I'd almost forgotten about this part, but all this time, in addition to fact that we were watching this thing. When we first saw the flying object, we saw some sort of weird thing coming through the field and we both, I'm trying to remember at what point that happened, but I know at some point, possibly even before we saw the flying object for the first time, he thought, and I did to, we saw what looked like a skinny creature. Tall, but not real tall, like a child height. MC: How far away? DJ: It was out in the field and more coming from the north. To the right of where it landed. That area was a long fence line that went back towards the windmill farm. Maybe a hundred feet away. It was real dark and I was having a hell of a time telling if I was seeing anything. It wasn't moving much. What ever it was it was very still. And we were kind of scared and I, then we started paying attention to the flying object. We were scared. He was saying, "I see something." I said, "I think I see something to back there." Then I heard this weird thing talking. It was like the sound of a child. When something like that happens and you don't expect, at night in an empty field, to hear a child laughing and playing. Sounds of a child talking. I thought was that an animal? What is that? It was like something walking. I mean what ever the voice was, it was moving. But I really couldn't see it. So we both tried to kind of look at it. Tried to find it again. He keep claiming he could see something and I couldn't see anything at that point. It was too dark and too shadowy to really tell. Let's put it this way, if that thing hadn't been there I would have seriously considered walking down the fence and around the hill and walking back to the other side. But whatever it was, I got the clear feeling that either they were sending something to watch us or warn us away. Whatever it was it kept us very effectively from going back behind the hill. MC: So then you went back to the house? When you got back what time was it? DJ: Yes, it was probably about 10:30 pm. MC: I guess you probably discussed this at length in his house? DJ: Yes. MC: Did you tell anyone else about this? DJ: I told a couple of people I know. A couple of friends. MC: Does Terry have animals on the farm? DJ: Yes. MC: Dogs? Where they with you during the sighting? DJ: Yeah, I remember when we first started looking at it, to see if there was something in the field, the dogs were barking at something. MC: Did they approach it? DJ: I think one of them did run back there. Like it was going after an animal. MC: They didn't try to attack this thing you saw walking around? DJ: No. They didn't seem to have any interest. ---